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	<title>Comments on: emp - easy music player</title>
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		<title>By: pygdan</title>
		<link>http://www.stonetable.org/2004/12/12/emp-easy-music-player/#comment-241</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jorg Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorg Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see what you mean now.

Well, when I read the iPod contents with iTunes under Windows (about three times so far) nothing strange happened. I've also added additional music using iTunes, and again -- nothing strange.

Anyway, if you are interested in code for reading and writing the iTunesDB -- have a look into the CVS repository (see http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=67873). The itdb*.[ch] files provide a clean(er) interface and allow to read/write an entire iTunesDB with just one command which returns a pointer to the data. It can easily be made into an independent library. This is new code (around two weeks old).

Cheers,    JCS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see what you mean now.</p>
<p>Well, when I read the iPod contents with iTunes under Windows (about three times so far) nothing strange happened. I&#8217;ve also added additional music using iTunes, and again &#8212; nothing strange.</p>
<p>Anyway, if you are interested in code for reading and writing the iTunesDB &#8212; have a look into the CVS repository (see <a href="http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=67873" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=67873</a>). The itdb*.[ch] files provide a clean(er) interface and allow to read/write an entire iTunesDB with just one command which returns a pointer to the data. It can easily be made into an independent library. This is new code (around two weeks old).</p>
<p>Cheers,    JCS.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.stonetable.org/2004/12/12/emp-easy-music-player/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jorg:

I didn't mean to imply gtkpod uses perl.  I was referring at my own meage attempts at creating a iPod sync tool, that would toggle between the two formats.

How are people getting iTunes and gtkpod working in parallel?  When I've tried (and others I know), after syncing with gtkpod iTunes no longer recognizes the iPod and wants to re-syncronize it, i.e., erasing the device and re-copying all music.


For what it's worth, I just installed the latest version of gtkpod.  It's quite featureful. I wouldn't call it the most user-friendly application, though.  Here's why: the typical user that I know wants to manage their playlist in one place, typically their preferred music player, like Rhythmbox, Muine, or even EMP, and don't want to have to use another application just to sync their iPod.

Basically, I see gtkpod as being syncronization and library management.  The problem is that there are other applications to handle library management.  That leaves syncronization and I'd prefer to see a stand-alone solution to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorg:</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to imply gtkpod uses perl.  I was referring at my own meage attempts at creating a iPod sync tool, that would toggle between the two formats.</p>
<p>How are people getting iTunes and gtkpod working in parallel?  When I&#8217;ve tried (and others I know), after syncing with gtkpod iTunes no longer recognizes the iPod and wants to re-syncronize it, i.e., erasing the device and re-copying all music.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I just installed the latest version of gtkpod.  It&#8217;s quite featureful. I wouldn&#8217;t call it the most user-friendly application, though.  Here&#8217;s why: the typical user that I know wants to manage their playlist in one place, typically their preferred music player, like Rhythmbox, Muine, or even EMP, and don&#8217;t want to have to use another application just to sync their iPod.</p>
<p>Basically, I see gtkpod as being syncronization and library management.  The problem is that there are other applications to handle library management.  That leaves syncronization and I&#8217;d prefer to see a stand-alone solution to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorg Schuler</title>
		<link>http://www.stonetable.org/2004/12/12/emp-easy-music-player/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorg Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 05:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not quite sure I understand what you are talking about: gtkpod does not use and perl. It also does not provide a toggle between gtkpod-format and iTunes-format databases. Last: there are people using iTunes and gtkpod in parallel. Are you sure we are talking about the same thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure I understand what you are talking about: gtkpod does not use and perl. It also does not provide a toggle between gtkpod-format and iTunes-format databases. Last: there are people using iTunes and gtkpod in parallel. Are you sure we are talking about the same thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.stonetable.org/2004/12/12/emp-easy-music-player/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense, but gtkpod is definitely not the answer I'm looking for.  I've used it, looked at the code a bit, and tried to make it useful.  It isn't cross-compatible with iTunes (I should have mentioned that in my post), which is a goal of my libipod.  I have an old PowerMac that I run iTunes on, and I want to be able to sync between them.  Gtkpod doesn't allow for that.  The perl modules for iTunesDB will actually let you toggle between gtkpod-format and iTunes-format databases.  I will probably refer back to that when building libipod, because I like having a choice in which format to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense, but gtkpod is definitely not the answer I&#8217;m looking for.  I&#8217;ve used it, looked at the code a bit, and tried to make it useful.  It isn&#8217;t cross-compatible with iTunes (I should have mentioned that in my post), which is a goal of my libipod.  I have an old PowerMac that I run iTunes on, and I want to be able to sync between them.  Gtkpod doesn&#8217;t allow for that.  The perl modules for iTunesDB will actually let you toggle between gtkpod-format and iTunes-format databases.  I will probably refer back to that when building libipod, because I like having a choice in which format to use.</p>
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		<title>By: 9-speed</title>
		<link>http://www.stonetable.org/2004/12/12/emp-easy-music-player/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>9-speed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about &lt;a href="http://gtkpod.sourceforge.net/" title="gtkpod at sourceforge" rel="external"&gt;gtkpod&lt;/a&gt;? That probably has a iTunesDB parser build in, and it works pretty fast...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about <a href="http://gtkpod.sourceforge.net/" title="gtkpod at sourceforge" rel="external">gtkpod</a>? That probably has a iTunesDB parser build in, and it works pretty fast&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.stonetable.org/2004/12/12/emp-easy-music-player/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Podlet is still coming, but may end up relying on libipod, which I'll be finishing for emp.  I have a semi-functional perl version of podlet, but the perl version of the iTunesDB parser is pretty CPU-intensive.  I think I can streamline that and make it perform well enough for everyday use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Podlet is still coming, but may end up relying on libipod, which I&#8217;ll be finishing for emp.  I have a semi-functional perl version of podlet, but the perl version of the iTunesDB parser is pretty CPU-intensive.  I think I can streamline that and make it perform well enough for everyday use.</p>
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		<title>By: 9-speed</title>
		<link>http://www.stonetable.org/2004/12/12/emp-easy-music-player/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>9-speed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff!! I'm really looking forward to a usable release.
How about podlet? Is that still going on, or was it just to trie some things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff!! I&#8217;m really looking forward to a usable release.<br />
How about podlet? Is that still going on, or was it just to trie some things?</p>
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